HOWARD
FINEMAN: the court essentially said that Congress could not require people to
buy something in the private economy, but they could fine them if they didn't.
AR2:I think that
SCOTUS put the citizenry in front of a firing squad. This in effect will give congress the right
to enforce any public mandate through taxation.
To think that it will stop at this one fiasco is delusional. It will be up to the people to force congress
to quell their newly found power by passing and defining a law prohibiting punitive
taxation. Our Federal Republic
originated as a result of unfair taxation, and we certainly do not want to
allow our own government this power. We
all need to fully understand the ramifications of this ruling. It is not about the healthcare mandate it is
about the creation of a new power of state to control and rule the people of
our nation. The United States of America
has long stood for individual rights and freedoms, the right to keep the heavy
thumb of government suppression away from our individual lives and
livelihood. We have been duped and
misled into thinking that the government is our friend and our protector, not
factual. We have been propagandized into
thinking that those of us who respect the rights and the abilities of the
individual to achieve, are heartless.
Let me remind you all..we eat the animals we feed. Gifts of kindness from any government are not
from heart but from striving for control and power. Summer77: Fox is already throwing Roberts under the
bus!! Republicans are so foolish they will continue to go down this path of
hate and Obstruction at their own demise! If they continue not only will they
lose but the American People may get that Single Payer System that we should
have had to being with, This the most power Country in the world yet our Health
System is number 34th in the World!
AR2: Summer, What exactly do you think this
bill will supply you, or others, that could not have been accomplished in many
smaller bites? What makes you think that
a single payer system will work better than an open system of true competition
across state lines, in conjunction with those components that most of us, GOP
and Tea Party, are in agreement. There
are those items that will show up if given a chance for honest discourse. That is not what existed during the push for
an increase in governmental power masquerading as a gift too our people.
minkad: The importance of landmark rulings has
played important roles in our lives. Cases like Brown v Board of Education and
Roe v Wade are two recent cases that have impacted how our society operates.
Most people on the right are blaming Justice Roberts because they are not aware
that it was the constitutionality of the mandate that was being considered.
There have been many questionable rulings in the US Supreme Court in recent
history so it is incumbent on the chief justice to get it right no matter what
the political downfall. The Court is an important tool to assure the rights of
individuals and the government to operate, and as such, rightly came down on
the side of the 'Affordable Care Act'. This day will live in the history books
forever. To read more on other historical facts on the US Supreme Court go to: http://www.thegreaterbooks.com/product_info.php/cPath/21_26/products_id/32
AR2: It will go
down in history for sure. Hopefully it
will be noted as the final straw, of governmental power grabbing politicians,
that wakes up the populace. We need to
be aware that the power and control granted to politicians are a cost,
regardless of the sugar they offer as a bribe.
If nothing is done to counteract this new ability, allowing the use of
taxation as a means of forcing compliance, we will rue this day. The court I think was incorrect in redefining
the language of this law in order to squeeze it into the realm of
constitutionality, but it did. It is now
incumbent on the power of the voter and the houses of Congress to rein in the
newly granted power of taxation as a tool to force the rest of us into compliance with whatever keeps them in power. If you really think this is so great, use
your imagination to look down the road towards the future. Is what you see what you would like to be
living today……remember, what is given to you today, tomorrow someone will have
to pay
'Republicans and
Romney, their presumptive nominee, will make overturning the law their crusade
for the campaign, and they will have the polls on their side.'---
They will surely make it their crusade but disagree that they will have polls on their side. Most people who must rely upon private health insurance, do not want to be turned away for pre existing. This reform also offers young folks the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan til their 26, preventative care included in plans that previously left it out (even plans w/very high deductibles) and small businesses a bigger pool thru exchanges. The only ones that would not see the benefit of the reform are those that are prey to right wing propaganda.
They will surely make it their crusade but disagree that they will have polls on their side. Most people who must rely upon private health insurance, do not want to be turned away for pre existing. This reform also offers young folks the opportunity to stay on their parents' plan til their 26, preventative care included in plans that previously left it out (even plans w/very high deductibles) and small businesses a bigger pool thru exchanges. The only ones that would not see the benefit of the reform are those that are prey to right wing propaganda.
AR2: Lizzy, get off the talking points and listen to the
facts..You are to busy with the yadayada to listen to what Romney is
saying. Reach behind your back grab
ahold of your neck and pull firmly, this will put you in a better position to
see the facts. It is real easy to paint
Mr. Romney with the liberal spray paint of taking away the good things in this
bill. In fact he has stated that there
are many good things that should be used and put into effect in order to reform
our healthcare system. He, like many of
us, don't agree with the method used to create this monstrosity, nor do we
agree with the hidden costs that will accrue after 2014. This bill was never about healthcare it is
about power over a population and Roberts just handed over a new weapon to the
politicians. We need to elect
representatives for our nations good not for our ideology. Ideology formed from indoctrination does not
create good governance; government with the power to impose its will upon its
people is what we fought against during the formation of our country. Do you think it is wise to allow political
power seekers the ability to force us all into compliance under the threat of taxation? I apologize for suggesting that you need to
pull your head out of a place of willing ignorance, sorry
I am overjoyed
for Americans today! As Joe Biden would say "This is a big f---ing
deal!"
We need to vote for people in November who will not rob us of this much needed law. The fact that Romney, upon whose Mass. plan this law was based, now says that the rest of us don't deserve the same security speaks volumes about the character, or lack thereof, of the man. He and his fellow Republicans have vowed to destroy the ACA, and to leave most Americans out in the cold...again.
We have already lost our savings, our investments and our homes because prior administrations have favored the wealthy and turned their backs on the middle class. It should not have taken this long for all Americans to see that "trickle down" doesn't happen. If we don't throw these people out in November, we will lose the ACA, and suffer yet another great personal loss: The ability to obtain affordable health care.
I agree: Learn about the ACA and fight to keep it. Fight with your voices, you keyboards and your ballots. If we are a healthy country we have a real shot at making this the America we want and need it to be.
We need to vote for people in November who will not rob us of this much needed law. The fact that Romney, upon whose Mass. plan this law was based, now says that the rest of us don't deserve the same security speaks volumes about the character, or lack thereof, of the man. He and his fellow Republicans have vowed to destroy the ACA, and to leave most Americans out in the cold...again.
We have already lost our savings, our investments and our homes because prior administrations have favored the wealthy and turned their backs on the middle class. It should not have taken this long for all Americans to see that "trickle down" doesn't happen. If we don't throw these people out in November, we will lose the ACA, and suffer yet another great personal loss: The ability to obtain affordable health care.
I agree: Learn about the ACA and fight to keep it. Fight with your voices, you keyboards and your ballots. If we are a healthy country we have a real shot at making this the America we want and need it to be.
AR2:Good grief!!
Do you read what you write?
Security? What security do you
get when this ACA, that you are so enthralled with, says that you are too old
for a bypass operation, or you don't really need to see out of both eyes. Your comment regarding what you and many of
the rest of us have lost is totally ignorant.
This recent fiasco is the result of a give for vote program initiated by
the dems to put financially unqualified people into home ownership. This caused a unreliable demand for housing
increasing false value which exploded.
One of the major reasons our health care costs has skyrocketed is
because of government involvement and price fixing which stopped free market
cost adjustments to occur. One of the
great sidebars of this action is the creation of a whole new level of criminals,
they have to cheat the system in order to provide care. Most of us agree that change and correction
to our healthcare system is needed, and most of us agree on what those should
be. The disagreement comes regarding the
method, the means, and the payoffs and hidden costs of this ACA that you are so
proud of. This is a big effen deal and
we are all the ones being effed.
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